Devanagari
विदुर उवाच
ब्रह्मन् कथं भगवतश्चिन्मात्रस्याविकारिण: ।
लीलया चापि युज्येरन्निर्गुणस्य गुणा: क्रिया: ॥ २ ॥
Verse text
vidura uvāca
brahman kathaṁ bhagavataś
cin-mātrasyāvikāriṇaḥ
līlayā cāpi yujyeran
nirguṇasya guṇāḥ kriyāḥ
Synonyms
viduraḥ uvāca
—
Vidura said
;
brahman
—
O brāhmaṇa
;
katham
—
how
;
bhagavataḥ
—
of the Personality of Godhead
;
cit
—
mātrasya — of the complete spiritual whole
;
avikāriṇaḥ
—
of the unchangeable
;
līlayā
—
by His pastime
;
ca
—
either
;
api
—
even though it is so
;
yujyeran
—
take place
;
nirguṇasya
—
who is without the modes of nature
;
guṇāḥ
—
modes of nature
;
kriyāḥ
—
activities .
Translation
Śrī Vidura said: O great brāhmaṇa, since the Supreme Personality of Godhead is the complete spiritual whole and is unchangeable, how is He connected with the material modes of nature and their activities? If this is His pastime, how do the activities of the unchangeable take place and exhibit qualities without the modes of nature?
Translation (Visvanatha Cakravarti Thakura)
Vidura said: O brāhmaṇa! How is it possible that the Lord, who is spiritual, without change, and beyond the guṇas, becomes connected with actions and guṇas?
How can a spiritual entity have activities like creation of the universe with guṇas like sattva, rajas and tamas? Vidura has not used the words cinmaya or cid-rūpa but the word cin-mātrasya. This word limits the Lord to only spiritual substance, with no trace of matter. However, māyā, with material guṇas, was described in the verse quoted from chapter 5 as being a śakti of the Lord. Because the Lord cannot be separated from his śakti, the Lord must have material guṇas. How can that be possible that he has these guṇas if he is only exclusively spiritual, cinmātra. And if he has these guṇas, how can he be considered completely spiritual? This is one question.
Transformation is caused by time, and is a quality of the guṇas. Because the Lord is purely spiritual, if he is without change, how can he perform actions which indicate change? If he performs actions, how can he be spiritual? This is the second question. “It is impossible for him to have such guṇas and actions.” But they do appear if the Lord has independent pastimes. By using the phrase līlayā vā (does he really have such pastimes?) instead of simply līlayā, it is possible to avoid contradiction. If he actually has such pastimes, then it is impossible for him to avoid have guṇas.
Bhagavataḥ is a subject with modifying words such as cinmatrasya and avikariṇaḥ. bhagavān eka āsedam agre: only the Lord existed before the creation. (SB 3.5.23) Maitreya will also mention Bhagavān later with seyaṁ bhagavato māyā. (SB 3.7.9) If one describes the Lord as dealing with māyā, such a Bhagavān cannot be purely spiritual. He cannot be said to have bhaga (spiritual qualities), for in the Viṣṇu Purāṇa it is said that bhagavān means “having bhagas or qualities, which is non-material.”
jṣāna-śakti-balaiśvarya-vīrya-tejāṁsy aśeṣataḥ
bhagavac-chabda vācyāni vinā heyair guṇādibhir
The word bhagavān means to be endowed with unlimited knowledge, sense power, bodily strength, power of control, influence and beauty without inferior guṇas.
dehadehi-vibhāgo ’yaṁ neśvare vidyate kvacid
There is not separation of the Lord from his body at all.
Thus the word bhaga indicates that the six great qualities are purely spiritual, not a transformation of the material guṇas such as sattva. Such qualities of Bhagavān are his chief qualities (svarūpa-lakṣaṇa). Saying that these qualities of Bhagavān are secondary qualities (taṭaṣṭha-lakṣaṇa) because they are material is completely wrong. One may say that Indra possesses māyā, and that Indra becomes a bull by māyā’s power. This means that there is an appearance of a bull belonging to Indra created by himself. Similarly, in saying that the Lord has māyā (seyaṁ bhagavato māyā), the Lord becomes the universe by the use of māyā. This means that the Lord has a universal form made of māyā, but this is not the Lord.
Purport
As described in the previous chapter, the difference between the Supersoul, the Supreme Lord, and the living entities is that the activities of the Lord in creating the cosmic manifestation are performed by the Lord through the agency of His multifarious energies, but this manifestation is bewildering to the living entities. The Lord is therefore the master of the energies, whereas the living entities are subjugated by them. By asking various questions about transcendental activities, Vidura is clearing the misconception that when the Lord either descends to the earth in His incarnation or appears Himself with all His potencies, He too is subjected to the influence of
māyā,
just like an ordinary living entity. This is generally the calculation of less intelligent philosophers who consider the position of the Lord and that of the living entities to be on the same level. Vidura is hearing the great sage Maitreya refute these arguments. The Lord is described in this verse as
cin-mātra,
or completely spiritual. The Personality of Godhead has unlimited potencies to create and manifest many wonderful things, both temporary and permanent. Because this material world is the creation of His external energy, it thus appears to be temporary; it is manifested at certain intervals, maintained for some time, and again dissolved and conserved in His own energy. As described in
Bhagavad-gītā
(8.19)
,
bhūtvā bhūtvā pralīyate.
But the creation of His internal potency, the spiritual world, is not a temporary manifestation like the material world, but is eternal and full of transcendental knowledge, opulence, energy, strength, beauties and glories. Such manifestations of the Lord’s potencies are eternal and are therefore called
nirguṇa,
or free from all tinges of the modes of material nature, even up to the mode of material goodness. The spiritual world is transcendental even to material goodness and thus is unchangeable. Since the Supreme Lord of such eternal and unchangeable qualities is never subjugated by anything like material influence, how can His activities and form be conceived to be under the influence of illusory
māyā,
as is the case with the living entities?
A juggler or magician displays many wonders with his acts and arts. He can become a cow by his magical tactics, and yet he is not that cow; but at the same time, the cow displayed by the magician is not different from him. Similarly, the material potency is not different from the Lord because it is an emanation from Him, but at the same time, that manifestation of potency is not the Supreme Lord. The Lord’s transcendental knowledge and potency always remain the same; they do not change, even when displayed in the material world. As stated in
Bhagavad-gītā,
the Lord descends to the earth by His own internal potency, and therefore there is no question of His becoming materially contaminated, changed or otherwise affected by the modes of material nature. The Lord is
saguṇa
by His own internal potency, but at the same time He is
nirguṇa,
since He is not in touch with the material energy. The restrictions of the prison house are applicable to prisoners who are condemned by the king’s law, but the king is never affected by such implications, although he may visit the prison house out of his good will. In the
Viṣṇu Purāṇa
the six opulences of the Lord are stated to be nondifferent from Him. The opulences of transcendental knowledge, strength, opulence, potency, beauty and renunciation are all identical with the Personality of Godhead. When He personally displays such opulences in the material world, they have no connection with the modes of material nature. The very word
cin-mātratva
is the guarantee that the Lord’s activities are always transcendental, even when displayed in the material world. His activities are as good as the Supreme Personality Himself; otherwise, liberated devotees like Śukadeva Gosvāmī would not have been attracted by them. Vidura inquired how the Lord’s activities can be in the modes of material nature, as is sometimes miscalculated by persons with a poor fund of knowledge. The inebriety of the material qualities is due to the difference between the material body and the spirit soul. The conditioned soul’s activities are displayed through the medium of the modes of material nature and are therefore perverted in appearance. However, the Lord’s body and the Lord Himself are one and the same, and when the Lord’s activities are displayed, they are certainly nondifferent from the Lord in all respects. The conclusion is that persons who consider the Lord’s activities material are certainly mistaken.